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    New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    Hoping the bring the Envision to the States and not crazy expensive, it could well be my next vehicle.

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by cybercruiser View Post
    Hoping the bring the Envision to the States and not crazy expensive, it could well be my next vehicle.
    Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. So you want something bigger than the Encore but smaller than the Enclave. That would be the Envision. It's built in China so that may turn some people away. However, I remember how many people wanted the Chinese built Cadillac STS-L and especially the Buick Park Avenue they've had over there. So I'm sure it would sell well regardless of where it was built...
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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Collaziano View Post
    Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. So you want something bigger than the Encore but smaller than the Enclave. That would be the Envision. It's built in China so that may turn some people away. However, I remember how many people wanted the Chinese built Cadillac STS-L and especially the Buick Park Avenue they've had over there. So I'm sure it would sell well regardless of where it was built...
    The ones that will be sold here in the states will also be made in China?? hmmmmm, that's an interesting thought. Yeah, not crazy about that, guess I assumed that American sold Envision would be made, at least, in the North Americas, maybe Mexico or Canada, but, of course, I'd prefer they be build here in Ohio. How about Lordstown?!?!?!? :-)

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by cybercruiser View Post
    The ones that will be sold here in the states will also be made in China?? hmmmmm, that's an interesting thought. Yeah, not crazy about that, guess I assumed that American sold Envision would be made, at least, in the North Americas, maybe Mexico or Canada, but, of course, I'd prefer they be build here in Ohio. How about Lordstown?!?!?!? :-)
    I do believe that to be the case - that the Envision is being built in China...

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    I will not be ready to get another vehicle for a couple years, but I (and my wife, who is the real boss!) really like the looks and size of the Envision. The Encore is nice, but really a bit too small for us and the Enclave is too big. We think the Envision will fit us perfectly. We will wait to see what happens after it is imported and after people forget that it is Chinese-made, but at this time, it looks like what we will be getting as a next car.

    Mike

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    I will definitely look at them. There is a good story with photos of it in the latest edition of the BUICK magazine they send me. I own an Encore.

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by cybercruiser View Post
    The ones that will be sold here in the states will also be made in China?? hmmmmm, that's an interesting thought. Yeah, not crazy about that, guess I assumed that American sold Envision would be made, at least, in the North Americas, maybe Mexico or Canada, but, of course, I'd prefer they be build here in Ohio. How about Lordstown?!?!?!? :-)
    I agree. i pi$$es me off that an American company, bailed-out by the U.S. gov. and taxpayers, has a car being built in China, then exported back to the "home" country for sale. Although it may be a nice car, and not to offend anyone, but because of this I would not even consider one.
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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    Hi "Fishface"...no offence here. Just curious, your profile indicates you own a 2015 Buick Encore Convenience. Is it assembled in South Korea, or Mexico? Kinda the same concern, as assembled in China, right?

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by TxTom View Post
    Hi "Fishface"...no offence here. Just curious, your profile indicates you own a 2015 Buick Encore Convenience. Is it assembled in South Korea, or Mexico? Kinda the same concern, as assembled in China, right?
    That's a good point. I'm curious what he thinks about that as well...

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by TxTom View Post
    Hi "Fishface"...no offence here. Just curious, your profile indicates you own a 2015 Buick Encore Convenience. Is it assembled in South Korea, or Mexico? Kinda the same concern, as assembled in China, right?
    The big difference is that China at best is our adversary, at worst, our enemy. That is why I object to a taxpayer bailed-out company taking the Envision's assembly away from our U.S. workers, and taken to a country that does not have our best interests at heart. Mexico and S. Korea, in contrast, although foreign, are on "our side" on the world stage.

    BTW, I'm not fond of Ford bringing jobs to Mexico either, but they at least, were not bailed out by us taxpayers.

    FWIW, I lease, do not own the Encore.
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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    I own a 2014 Encore Premium and the fact that it is made in Korea doesn't bother me. I love the car. I looked at the Envision and want one. My wife takes care of our money matters and said why should we pay more car payment, insurance and taxes for a vehicle you drive 3-4 hours a week. She has a good point. I love the Envision, just don't need it. Maybe someday I will. I kept my last SUV 10 years and sold it with 45,000 miles on it, so my wife is pretty much on target. The Envision is beautiful, and appears well made. The fact that it is made in China does concern me. I can't imagine why GM chose China, Korea would have been a much better choice. They certainly made the Encore well.

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

    "I can't imagine why GM chose China, Korea would have been a much better choice."

    I'm totally in agreement, and would not buy or lease one for that reason. For others, "to each is own".

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    Re: New to Buick, but, I can envision myself in an Envision :-)

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    I have read that Buick has been building the Envision in China for that "local" market for 2 years now, and with great success over there. Producing over 100,000 units a year. Apparently the factory there has some excess capacity with the downturn in the Chinese economy, so the additional 20-30,000 North American units are viewed as incremental. That combined with no excess capacity at a suitable GM U.S./Canadian/Mexican factory, apparently is the basis for the Chinese production. Without this decision the Envision would not exist, and GM definitely needed to get into this fastest growing segment of the automobile market. Minor product changes for the North American market made this a good economic decision for GM, and it gives us a product option in the CUV/SUV segment. Someday maybe they can bring production of the Envision to a "local" factory. Then we'd all be happy with a faster customer order-to-delivery cycle, rather than the 2-4 months as it is now for the 2017 Envisions, plus the importance of employing workers in North America.
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