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Not looking for friction! What is the best of these two tunes and why. Thanks
BNR will get back to you pretty quick. When you contact them you are speaking with them direct. No third party.Thanks. I'm leaning towards BNR. Wish they would put their phone number on their web site. Trifecta, I think, sends you a file and cable to use with your laptop. It appears BNR does differently?
BNR will get back to you pretty quick. When you contact them you are speaking with them direct. No third party.
And BNR uses a handheld tuner so you don't need a laptop. You can put several tunes on the device and the actual programming is pretty darn quick. I can pull it out of the glovebox and re-flash back to stock before the car is done filling up with gas. I use the same handheld for my Sonic and my Regal.
BNR will also customize the tune a lot more for your particular needs. I'm thinking he can even reduce peak available torque in first gear to help prevent wheel spin. For me I asked him to keep throttle sensitivity and torque demand the same as stock up until about 60% pedal command. The extra power doesn't start to build until after that. Doing that kept it just as easy to drive as it was stock and you don't get into the extra power unless you WANT it.
I think this was the perfect solution and better executed than what I've experienced on Trifecta and the select-a-tune. The car is still perfectly docile in normal conditions but will get on it when you ask it to. I can let anyone drive it and not worry about the car being temperamental just driving to the store. With BNR, you don't have to tame it by turning "off" the tune and then having that hair-trigger throttle in power mode. It can be quite erratic to drive that way and was frustrating on many occasions.
Plus the handheld device itself is part of the initial tune cost. End up trading for another GM car down the road and you can probably just buy the actual tune file, license, use your existing handheld and save some $$$.
Yes, the AWD is more expensive but sadly no manual transmission offeredI'm learning one thing. Unless you have the AWD version putting even the stock power to the FWD only cars, at slower speeds, causes wheel spin. Unfortunately the AWD version was about 3K more expensive. Have no idea how to overcome that.....slicks on the front wheels? (that's a joke?)
I have purchased several tunes for my turbo vehicles over the years, but have yet to take a single car to the track for time trials. I have never paid for a dyno test. Sorry that I cant answer your question but perhaps it might be helpful to let you know that for me, tunes were purchased to make my daily driver vehicle more enjoyable, more “daily driveable” if you follow me. Therefore I only get tunes that gently stretch the engine internals and ever so slightly boost the turbo because again... its my daily driver that I depend on and not a track car and i am looking to race anyone. If i was going to really care all that much about crazy HP gains etc, I would have a custom tune locally created for me to run the track and it would be a serious hobby, and an expensive one too LOL.What are your 1/4 Mile readings after the tune for BNR and Trifecta, just curious
Awesome feedback coming from someone with such a history with cars! Thanks^ Same for me. I've owned a 500-hp 2001 Camaro SS', Grand National, a sponsored Honda S2000, 200+ hp Abarth, tuned Alfa GTV6, etc. The list is long. More than 30 sportscars since 1981. In the past, the ownership path for most of my rides was "buy, tune, drive and eventually sell." This time out, while I wait 2-3 years to reward my retirement with a low mileage, off-lease Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, I just wanted a saloon that from the get-go, was quite sufficient all on its own with no absolute necessity to go down that rabbit hole of modifications and I definitely didn't want to see myself coming and going (Q50, C300, etc) so enter the GS. Granted, I'm nearing 60-years of age and the mod bug has passed. If I was younger, no doubt this GS would likely have six or seven ingredients added to Buick's recipe but in stock form, my '16 is a stout challenger however it didn't take long after purchase to realize I wasn't going to be content with the stock engagement points from the transmission and felt it really needed about 50-60 more ponies and some computer-work to get the daily livability where I wanted it. Enter the base Trifecta tune and couldn't be happier. The transparency feature is a Godsend. I'm not drag racing, street racing, road course rallying, etc nor an owner in search of every last pony (where other tunes might be advantageous) but in and around my stomping grounds, the Trifecta tune brings the car to life, so to speak and I could not recommend it more highly. Shift engagements are crisp and in "flick mode," as I call it, sans paddles shifters, it's a stump puller. Now, it's the kind of ride that will have you drive 30 minutes outside of town for a half gallon of milk.
I'm sure the BNR is every bit as nice as others have reported but for this fella, I'm quite satisfied with the job Trifecta did in massaging my Buick into something Cadillac would find annoying.
That's why I bought an AWD Regal. At full throttle from a standing start on dry pavement it just hooks up and goes. There's never any wheel spin even with the traction control disabled. I had a couple of supercharged FWD Grand Prixs and the front tires would always spin if I hammered it from a standing start.I'm learning one thing. Unless you have the AWD version putting even the stock power to the FWD only cars, at slower speeds, causes wheel spin. Unfortunately the AWD version was about 3K more expensive. Have no idea how to overcome that.....slicks on the front wheels? (that's a joke?)