69 buick grand sport 430 big block, factory 4 speed 48,000 origanal miles

[david rodavich]

looking for help as to how rare this car is and its value. thinking of restoration but not sure of its value

 

[MelsRegal]

looking for help as to how rare this car is and its value. thinking of restoration but not sure of its value

The factory didn't offer a 430 in 1969 in A body vehicles.
Does the VIN stamp on the block match the vehicle?
How do you know it's not a 400?

 

[david rodavich]

it is on the back of the block 430 then some other no. that matched 430. the guy i got it from said it was rare or special ordered

 

[MelsRegal]

it is on the back of the block 430 then some other no. that matched 430. the guy i got it from said it was rare or special ordered

Does the VIN stamp on the block match the car VIN? If not the guy fed you false information. The VIN stamp can be found on the side not the back.
Read this

69 400 Engine VIN and Production Stamp Location

Researching the location of the VIN and production stamps on the 69 400 engine reveals they should both be stamped on the deck surface of the block on...

www.v8buick.com

 

[david rodavich]

ok thanks i think i does but i will ck tomorrow thanks dave

 

[david rodavich]

this was on the block behind intake 430 1381625
fender tag st69 44637fl2
tr186 77 dpnt
o2a

 

[MelsRegal]

this was on the block behind intake 430 1381625
fender tag st69 44637fl2
tr186 77 dpnt
o2a

Did you read the link I gave you in post 4?

 

[david rodavich]

could not get it to load will try again

 

[HotZ28]

What is the VIN number of the car? It sounds like a clone rebuild to me.
Decipher the VIN in the link below.

Buickgod.com Network - Preserving Buick History for Car Enthusiasts : Top : Buick Resource : VIN & Engine Info : All Models : 1965 to 1971 Vin info

 

[david rodavich]

cannot find no. on motor tranny no. matchs 446379h234000 vin

 

[MelsRegal]

cannot find no. on motor tranny no. matchs 446379h234000 vin

The VIN is for a Grand Sport 400

 

[david rodavich]

that is what it is badged for, u can call me if u would. the owner that is 75 years old says all no. matching he says car is rare with the 430 4 speed 724-966-5577

 

[MelsRegal]

that is what it is badged for, u can call me if u would. the owner that is 75 years old says all no. matching he says car is rare with the 430 4 speed 724-966-5577

Did you look at the passenger side of the block between cylinders 6 and 8 near the dipstick for numbers and letters?

 

[david rodavich]

could not find any will look again and says its a stage one

 

[LARRY70GS]

No, the important numbers are stamped into the block DECK, in between cylinders 1 and 3, and 5 and 7. It is possible for it to be on the passenger side between cylinders 2 and 4, and 6 and 8, but not likely. The engine serial number will match the VIN if the engine is original to the car. Look at page 00-5 in this linked section of the 1969 Buick Chassis Manual,

General Information, All Series, 1969 Buick Chassis Manual

The production Code will be a 2 letter code with numbers following. the 400 engine code is RR, and the 430 is RD. The numbers and code are stamped into the deck. The deck normally accumulates dirt and grease, so it will not be clearly visible unless you do a fair amount of cleaning. The cylinder head does not cover the entire block deck.

The GS in 69 was a GS400. It would have come with a 400, not a 430. I doesn't matter what the previous owner told you. In the absence of paperwork to prove, it's just his word. The car is 55 years old. The engine could have been replaced with a 430 in those past 55 years.

 

[david rodavich]

i will look some more havent found anything yet, looked hard yesterday if it is a no. matching is the car worth a 50,000 dollar resto

 

[MelsRegal]

i will look some more havent found anything yet, looked hard yesterday if it is a no. matching is the car worth a 50,000 dollar resto

Here is one source for values

Current Collector Car Value | 1969 BUICK GRAN SPORT 400 Prices

Current value for 1969 BUICK GRAN SPORT 400 collector cars.

www.collectorcarmarket.com

 

[LARRY70GS]

i will look some more havent found anything yet, looked hard yesterday if it is a no. matching is the car worth a 50,000 dollar resto

That's a big IF. Will you be able to prove it? And, are you restoring it to eventually sell, or keep and enjoy? Only you can say what it is worth doing.

 

[david rodavich]

dont want to spend 50,000 and if i sell its only worth 25,000 i will leave it as is and use it for a play toy

 

[MelsRegal]

dont want to spend 50,000 and if i sell its only worth 25,000 i will leave it as is and use it for a play toy

You said at one point it's a Stage one, that brings the value up according to the link in post 17 to about 61k