Starting to think about what will replace the TourX

[wi_badger]

I have a 2018 red needle with about 85,000 miles. Its has been maintained, lots of rock chips, some door dings and scratches. Normal for a car thaf has been used as a family and cargo hauler. Have a 15 year old who will turn 16 and be driving in less than a year. No decisions made yet but it may be that the TourX just becomes the 3rd car for kids to use as needed which means I need a new daily.

My daily commute to work is 35 to 40 miles round trip. Can be highway or city streets depending on traffic. Prefer to have all wheel drive due to winter weather here in Wisconsin. MPG is a consideration but not a deciding factor. I basically want a modern TourX replacement...balance of ride comfort, handling/performance, economy, rear passenger room, cargo space, and price.

A new A6 or E Class wagon is more than I care to spend. Most SUVs seem to lose the performance or economy factor.

What is everyone looking at as a TourX replacement? Been thinking about a used VW Arteon, Audi A5/S5, MDX Type-S but all lack something.

 

[bollox74]

not really a lateral choice out there - I do still like the aging Mazda 3 hatch, you can get a stick and a turbo and still have gauges. The upcoming Kia K4 Hatch looks ok ?, still a bit sad-trombone performance wise. Audi A6 Allroad is about the same as the Mercedes 450 wagon if you can swing it.

I'll probably get the Honda Civic Hatch Hybrid because cheap+efficent+hatch

 

[markanthem]

Crown Signia is the only thing close to what the TourX was

 

[jclin4]

Maybe consider Volvo V60 or V90.

 

[saab93driver]

Maybe consider Volvo V60 or V90.

They are both really nice looking cars. I drove a new 2024 V60CC when I was looking before I bought my CT5V. Really beautiful interior, seats, materials, ventilated seats and HUD if you want, everything on the inside blows the Buick away but then it should for the price. Decent power, you can get a factory tune which ups the power, but latest versions have an overly complicated mild hybrid system that seems overkill for little advantage and looks like it could be problematic in the long term. Seems like a car you'd want to keep as long as there is a warranty on it.

 

[saab93driver]

Crown Signia is the only thing close to what the TourX was

IMO worth considering. I test drove one of those as well about 8 months ago. In person from outside it definitely straddles the wagon SUV/CUV line, when you get close the SUV proportions are more prominent than wagon, if it were lowered a little it would be more wagon like. I thought it could use more power and was hoping they would put the hybrid Max in it like the Crown sedan but doesn't seem likely. The interior and attention to small details is really a step above, more Lexus than Toyota. The FB Crown Signia user page is very active, most people seem to be proud of owning it and happy with the car. I still kind of want one....

 

[MelsRegal]

They are both really nice looking cars. I drove a new 2024 V60CC when I was looking before I bought my CT5V. Really beautiful interior, seats, materials, ventilated seats and HUD if you want, everything on the inside blows the Buick away but then it should for the price. Decent power, you can get a factory tune which ups the power, but latest versions have an overly complicated mild hybrid system that seems overkill for little advantage and looks like it could be problematic in the long term. Seems like a car you'd want to keep as long as there is a warranty on it.

I just replaced a 2017 Regal GS with a custom order of a CT5 Sport 4WD. Unlike the V it uses the 2.0 Turbo. Seems to have all the features you mention but unclear on what you mean by a hybrid system?

 

[saab93driver]

I just replaced a 2017 Regal GS with a custom order of a CT5 Sport 4WD. Unlike the V it uses the 2.0 Turbo. Seems to have all the features you mention but unclear on what you mean by a hybrid system?

I was responding about the Volvo V60 and 90 which jclin4 suggested as a TourX replacement. They are are mild hybrid drivetrains and can be had with said featuers. I looked at / considered buying a Volvo V60 but ended up ordering my CT5V instead.

 

[D2R]

On this side of the pond, we simply do not have another wagon in the price range any more.
Everything out there are "crossover" that I have absolutely zero interest in.
Would rather drive a minivan than a damn crossover/SUV.

 

[wi_badger]

Thanks for all the replies. So far my short list is a CT5V (love to hear your thoughts) and a 2022-2023 VW Arteon, along with a 2025+ Camry but hard to give up the wagon utility.

 

[MelsRegal]

Thanks for all the replies. So far my short list is a CT5V (love to hear your thoughts) and a 2022-2023 VW Arteon, along with a 2025+ Camry but hard to give up the wagon utility.

On the CT5V the engine is the 3.6 twin turbo at 360 HP. So if one of your buying goals is 30+ mpg that won't work. On the other hand if you go for the CT5 Sport you get the 2.0 turbo and can add Brembo brakes, larger wheels and tires, paddle shifters, comes with adjustable drive modes and save on the cost of the vehicle and get 30+ mpg.

 

[saab93driver]

Thanks for all the replies. So far my short list is a CT5V (love to hear your thoughts) and a 2022-2023 VW Arteon, along with a 2025+ Camry but hard to give up the wagon utility.

I think the biggest adjustment you have going to the CT5 in any trim is that the CT5 trunk will be smaller and harder to load compared to the TourX or a Regal Sportback. The CT5 seats fold down but the trunk lid opening is small so for odd shaped items you sometimes have to be strategic in loading it. Also there isn't a spare tire well to fit a temp spare. Mine came with run flats, some come with the goop kit like the Buick gets.

Mine is the CT5V with AWD and I have just over 20K miles on it now. I split my daily commute up using the CT5V or my Regal Sportback. I wanted the car loaded and the higher power of the V6 and the V features to go with it. It can be a tame car when you want it to be or it can be a fun and fast car when you want to drive it that way, a very good balance. The V6 moves and never feels underpowered or unhappy and has a nice growling sound when you want it to. There wasn't much of a learning curve for the car's infotainment systems as much of it is laid out similar to the Buick in terms of menus an interfaces, albeit more choices in some menus.

As far a MPG goes around town and mixed driving is lower to mid 20's in normal driving. I can consistently get over 30 MPG on the highway at steady speeds on longer road trips, that was a nice surprise. I really have no regrets getting the CT5V with the 3.0TT and will be keeping it for a while. That said, if they would have offered the CT5V as a wagon I think I would have bought 2 or 3 of them, and stored the unused ones while I consume each and never had to buy another car. But we know that's not going to happen. The next car I replace will probably be my Sportback, I really like the SB but at some point it will be time. While I kind of liked the Crown Signia I've been finding myself looking in a completely different direction lately toward something like the Ford Maverick pickup.