Changing / Rotating tires and TPMS sync

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Do you need a special tool to reset the system when you install wheels with different TPMS sensors, or rotate wheels to a different corner of the vehicle?

Has anyone done this on a 2011 Regal? Can you tell me what tool you used?
 
I've been seaching the net and found:

1) some 2011 GM cars can still learn TPMS by letting air out when in learn mode.

2) I've read that a very stong magnet (i.e. bottom of magnetic parts tray holder)

3) "The GM Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) is designed to provide information to the customer allowing them to better maintain proper tire pressure in their vehicle. Proper tire pressure is important for optimizing safety, fuel economy, vehicle performance, and tire wear. Because the GM Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) recognizes a unique sensor ID in each tire, a TPM relearn must be performed after every tire rotation.

On past model vehicles, there were two procedures to relearn the TPMS: a Dealer Procedure and a Customer Procedure. After putting the vehicle in relearn mode, the Dealer Procedure used a TPM Tool (J-46079) or equivalent to activate each TPM sensor individually (Tool Method). This allowed each rotated tire/TPM sensor ID to be stored in the new corner location. The Customer Procedure required increasing or decreasing air pressure in each tire by one psi (Delta Pressure Method) to active the sensor allowing each rotated tire/TPM sensor ID to be stored in the new corner location. When using either the Dealer or Customer Procedure, there was the possibility of picking up and storing a stray pressure sensor signal ID from another vehicle that may have been broadcasting n the area. If a stray sensor was inadvertently stored, the system would not recognize the stray sensor ID and the vehicle would set a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) and illuminate the TPM System light.

To commonize procedures and eliminate the possibility of storing stray sensor signals, starting with Late 2011 Model Year GM vehicles and all vehicles build after that point will support just one TPM relearn procedure - the Dealer Procedure. This change allows both Dealers and Customers a common, faster, and more efficient method to relearn tire pressures after each tire rotation. Because all future TPM Relearns will be performed using the Dealer Procedure, customers wanting to rotate their own tires and perform their own TPM Relearn will be required to utilize a relearn tool. GM has designed and manufactured an inexpensive Relearn Tool (EL-50448) specifically for this application. Owner’s manuals have been updated accordingly, to verify the relearn method to be used, reference the Owner’s Manual – Tire Rotation – TPMS Sensor Matching Process."
 
Did you rotate them yourself or have a shop do it?


I wasn't rotating them. My wife hit a curb and tore up the two right side wheels. I bought 2 take-offs on ebay and when they switched the tires they put the weels back on in the wrong location. It was easier for me to have the car relearn the wheel locations than take it back to the shop to have the wheels moved.
 
I had a shop do it. They didn't know how to reset the TPMS.

I found the answer in the owners manual. Worked fine for me.
 
I wasn't rotating them. My wife hit a curb and tore up the two right side wheels. I bought 2 take-offs on ebay and when they switched the tires they put the weels back on in the wrong location. It was easier for me to have the car relearn the wheel locations than take it back to the shop to have the wheels moved.

I try to keep the keys out of my wife's hands for that exact reason. 😛
 
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My wife doesn't go far enough into an intersection before turning right. Same with exiting a driveway. She makes very swooping right hand turns, occasionally clipping the right rear tire. After 10 years of marriage and several attempts to shows her a matchbox car mock up of method, I've determined it's something she's unable/unwilling to fix.

I make deeper, more angular turns and as such have no wheel scuffs.

I'm planning on getting her an '12 in a few months and have already begun trolling ebay for used replacement rims. Maybe I should get them now too put a few more bucks on the GM card 🙂
 
Thanks, guys. I wasn't sure if the method in the manual worked or not, as I had read that it didn't always work on 2011 cars, no matter WHAT the manual said. 🙂
 
The manual I have says to use the reset tool to have the car relearn each sensor. I do not have this tool.

It does not say anything about increasing or decreasing the air pressure by 1 pound....I will try this in learn mode.
 
Changed to a set of snow tires on the weekend. TPMs was relearned using the letting air out method while in relearn mode. Manual says to use a tool. Apparently not necessary my Buick.
Car is a 2011 North American built turbo.
 
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Putting the car in tpms relearn mode and decreasing air pressure starting with the drivers front worked for me also. Search eBay for the relearn tool...$1500 WOW!
 
Would someone mind doing a short write-up on the decrease air pressure method? My manual states to be done with GM tool but I want to try anyway.
 
Just an update for everyone. Letting the air out DID NOT work on my March 2011 build T02. I purchased one of these tools:

https://gmspecialservicetools.spx.com/ToolDetails.aspx?id=5677

I got a chance to use it over the weekend, following the owners manual procedure, and it worked perfectly. The price is right for you guys that like to change / rotate your own tires.
 
I rotated my tires and I guess I will just be content that while not oriented correctly on the info center at least if one gets low I can know and just use my cheapo jegs digital gauge to figure out the tire and inflate it.

No way I am spending 60 bux on a unitasker like that.
 
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I rotated my tires and I guess I will just be content that while not oriented correctly on the info center at least if one gets low I can know and just use my cheapo jegs digital gauge to figure out the tire and inflate it.

No way I am spending 60 bux on a unitasker like that.

To be honest I've never done it on any of my cars. If it tells me one's low, like you said I'll go check it with a gauge.
 
I just let air out of my tires while following the procedure in the manual. It has always worked for me. I have a 2011 Turbo T07.
 
I lucked out. Where I live I have an 'Active Green and Ross' tire shop. If you rotate/swap your rims/tires on your own and drive down to their shop, they bring out the relearn tool and reset the TPMS - NO CHARGE!

It honestly took less than 2 mins. It is a total rip off for anyone to charge to do this service.
 
Had my tires rotated at the dealer. They said that it was all done. 6.5 miles later, car tells me that it lost contact with the right front sensor. Back we go. 50 minutes of tech time later, they got it right. Seems that 60 bucks might be a worthy investment.
 
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