8.5 " differential,how to I.D

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HOWDY, I am still pretty new to these GM B body cars,and I would like to know how one goes about identifying what differential is under your vehicle.
I have a 96' Buick Roadmaster Wagon and if I ever need to buy parts or the like, it would be good to know what rear end you truly have. Oh, and yes I
already know the most sure fire way to find out and that is probably by measuring
the ring gear diameter,but I'm hoping there is an easier way than that. ed
 
All of the 91-96 Roadmaster's have the GM corporate 10 bolt, with an 8.5" ring gear. Pretty much every B-body wagon since the late 70's has used it as well.
 
Thanks for the info Cory,at one time I thought that I read something about two
different differentials being used for the Roadmaster. They were both 10 bolt rears,but the difference was in the ring gear diameter, possibly I am thinking of another situation,please confirm. tks ed
 
To be completely correct, they had three. 2.56, 2.93, and a 3.08. My 93 RMS limited has a factory 3.08 with limited slip and tow package.
 
To be completely correct, they had three. 2.56, 2.93, and a 3.08. My 93 RMS limited has a factory 3.08 with limited slip and tow package.

While that is true, he mentioned in the first post that he has a '96 wagon. In '96 the Buick wagons only came in those 2 ratios.
 
To be completely correct, they had three. 2.56, 2.93, and a 3.08. My 93 RMS limited has a factory 3.08 with limited slip and tow package.

To be completely correct, there were 5... 2.73 was the standard ratio on the 91-93's... I believe 3.23 was the towing package ratio in 91 with the 305. But I'm not 100% certain on this stuff. I do know that 3.23, and 2.73 were available somewhere in there.
 
Thanks for the info Cory,at one time I thought that I read something about two
different differentials being used for the Roadmaster. They were both 10 bolt rears,but the difference was in the ring gear diameter, possibly I am thinking of another situation,please confirm. tks ed


The Caprice SEDAN's used the smaller 7.5" rear. They got it behind the 5.0(305, 91-93), 4.3 V6(265, 91-93... EXTREMELY RARE), and the 4.3 V8(265, 94-96). This was only on Civilian models. AND, there were some civilian models with the smaller motors, that got the larger 8.5" rear. Most of them also had the F40, "Ride Handling" suspension package. But (as far as I know), all of the police cars, regardless of engine, had the larger 8.5" rear, and also the towing package Caprice's also had the larger 8.5" rear. But from what I have gathered, every Wagon, and Every Roadmaster had the larger rear axle.

It's not just the ring gear. The 8.5" 10 bolt is bigger in almost every way, when compared to the 7.5" 10 bolt. Axle tubes, axle shafts, pinion diameter, bearing diameter, brakes, etc. Pretty much the only thing the two shared, was a 5x5 bolt pattern(91-96), and the "10 Bolt" designation. The 7.5", is what gives the 10 bolt a name as being weak.... yet many guys are running 10's, & faster in the 1/4 mile, on basically stock 8.5" rears. Many do this, whill still weighing in at over 4000lbs... That weight puts ALOT of stress on an axle.

Another thing you might be thinking of, is that the Sedan, and Wagon used different WIDTH axles. The Sedan used a "Skinny" axle housing, that was 1566mm IIRC. Where as the Wagon axle housing was about 1650mm.(that's not the exact). The wagon used a larger outer axle shaft bearing, which makes the flange bigger. The axle tube doesn't neck down. Which means you can't take the backing plate off a Caprice 9C1/Impala SS, slap it on, and have rear disc brakes. The axle shafts are also longer. The lower control arm mounts are spread slightly farther apart, and the spring perches are in a slightly different spot. This is good to know, when you try to sway in a sedan axle. Some have done it, and noted that the LCA's are angled slightly, and the springs don't line up perfectly. There also was another Sedan axle used, that was the "wide" axle housing. It was 1598mm, and was used on Caprice Sedan's(Not Fleet or Police cars) with the 8.5" axle, and the Impala SS.

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Well ok then, that settles it , I have the 8.5" ( big ass ) 10 bolt rear in
my 96' Roadie,this is good to know if I ever need to pull anything behind
it. To all those that gave me responses ,thanks. And no one can ever
say that the Buick boys are a bunch of dummies!! ed 🙂
 
To be completely correct, they had three. 2.56, 2.93, and a 3.08. My 93 RMS limited has a factory 3.08 with limited slip and tow package.
? I have a 1995 RMS and need help with the right axle shafts, both tires turn when one is moved.
 
? I have a 1995 RMS and need help with the right axle shafts, both tires turn when one is moved.
If you have a limited slip differential that is what is supposed to happen.
Why do you need an axle shaft?
 
The easiest way to ID an 8.5 is the 2 lugs at the 5:00 and 7:00 positions of the case. That and the rear U joint is retained by 2 straps and 4 bolts.

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I swapped in a 1971 8.5 10 bolt into my 70 GS455 Stage 1. I upgraded the axles to 30 spline Mosers and a matching Eaton Posi carrier. The 1971 Buick rear has bolt in axles, not C clips. It easily deals with my mid 11 second car and MT Drag Radials at the track.
 
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The easiest way to ID an 8.5 is the 2 lugs at the 5:00 and 7:00 positions of the case. That and the rear U joint is retained by 2 straps and 4 bolts.

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I swapped in a 1971 8.5 10 bolt into my 70 GS455 Stage 1. I upgraded the axles to 30 spline Mosers and a matching Eaton Posi carrier. The 1971 Buick rear has bolt in axles, not C clips. It easily deals with my mid 11 second car and MT Drag Radials at the track.
Hi Larry,
This is a 12 year old thread that someone resurrected today with a different question. Not about ID.
 
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