A/C Compressor - 2001 - Small leak on ground- Questions for all you A/C experts.

Nope, They kept the old compressor.
you should ask for it back tbh. and you technically agreed to replacement of the original, but there is NO reason that 800$ goes basically to that. They could rebuild it with labor(well the seals and gaskets and clutch/bearings)
For cheaper even with labor. and being it shouldnt have been too big a deal... etc...
Hope they didnt do it to swindle your compressor
Unless you have a restriction in your system, You have to be looking at fans or refrigerants... unless compressor is problem... it just dont make sense.
 
Forget about the a control valve problem if it is a new compressor! It sounds like you may have a blend door problem under the passenger side dash letting hot air in from the heater core!
 
Forget about the a control valve problem if it is a new compressor! It sounds like you may have a blend door problem under the passenger side dash letting hot air in from the heater core!
hes said hes handled all that, its been all said tho. Hopefully not something tricky and ends up beign down there

someone should check the aspirator
 
you should ask for it back tbh. and you technically agreed to replacement of the original, but there is NO reason that 800$ goes basically to that. They could rebuild it with labor(well the seals and gaskets and clutch/bearings)
For cheaper even with labor. and being it shouldnt have been too big a deal... etc...
Hope they didnt do it to swindle your compressor
Unless you have a restriction in your system, You have to be looking at fans or refrigerants... unless compressor is problem... it just dont make sense.
There is now way anyone could build a compressor with all those parts & labor that would be less expensive than an new Delphi compressor @ RA! Som Ting Wong here!




































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There is now way anyone could build a compressor with all those parts & labor that would be less expensive than an new Delphi compressor @ RA! Som Ting Wong here!




































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Description:
OEM/Dealer (hrs): 1.9
Regular (hrs): 2.7

Operations​

System: HEATING & AIR CONDITIONING
Subsystem: Compressor Front Seal, Seat and O-Ring, Replace
Operation:

1990-03

AT most 2.9 hours labor if in severe situation(not his)
 
The OP stated that he can't get less than 65° F out of the vents! It makes no sense to try to rebuild an AC compressor. I think AZ is a under a severe heat situation this time of year!
 
AT most 2.9 hours labor if in severe situation(not his)
Nearly 3-hrs of labor to rebuild a compressor? That equates to about $450.00 labor by be old book and that does nor include parts!
 
The OP stated that he can't get less than 65° F out of the vents! It makes no sense to try to rebuild an AC compressor. I think AZ is a under a severe heat situation this time of year!
No Im not saying to rebuild it, lol You misunderstand.
he was hoping to have it refreshed for seals and they told him no thats not plausible or hed have to shell out more money
basically he got hosed because his initial wants were stepped around, they pretty much sold him "a fix" and they reuturned his car to him with the same or worse vent temps.

And told him it was becuase he only gave them 800. 1400 would have gotten better temps. 1655910528214.webp
 
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You should get your old compressor back. No reason why they should have kept it. It belonged to you.
 
Latest Update: ....The latest on the A/C saga.... (Warning... Long story)

Took my car into the local Firestone shop and explained to their A/C technician the sequence of events and why I was asking for a second opinion.
He was a good dude and listened to the story, and i kept it minimal. He said he would place some gauges on it and get back with me. Sooo...

Firestone's results: (Pressure etc.) 68psi low / 178psi High. Even I know those numbers are off the mark. He looked at the Orifice Tube and said he could see Metal shavings around it. (Previous shop mentioned this and showed me the old Orifice Tube but didn't say it was anything but "normal" sediment etc.)

The tech's advice was this: He said he the pressures were way off and based on what he could tell, he suggested an entire "Kit". I asked him what that entailed. "Everything except the evaporator. Drier, condenser, Orifice Tube AND...AND..AND........ a NEW COMPRESSOR."

I flat out told him that I was expecting the other parts, but a NEW compressor?? Really... IT IS "NEW".

Anyhow.... They charged me $10 and suggested I call the previous shop and complain (I did) and work something out. Sooo...

I called the shop that "only" replaced the Compressor and Orifice Tube. I told them about my problem and they basically stated their position that from the beginning, they recommended a "FULL KIT" in order to get the most out of the repair. (Yes. I was offered this and don't deny it - I just wasn't ready to spend $1,700 for an entire NEW AC system. $900+ was bad enough...)

And honestly, perhaps my own ignorance played a big part... But, since the car only had 60k on her, (And other than not blowing cold and some compressor oil on the floor.) I though maybe....maybe a new compressor at the most.

So.... I asked what they could do for me to correct my problem. They were nice enough and acknowledged the problem... said they would do their best to get the rest of the parts near cost and offered to install these and evacuate the system for no charge. Simply put... for another $700+ I'm replacing everything minus the compressor they just replaced.

Sheesh... I was really kicking myself for starting into this in the first place. Yeah, I suppose I "Should have" gone down that road, but??? I had my KIA's compressor replaced (only) by my old A/C guy and it's been awesome. What do I know...?? Maybe people just replace everything nowadays. This whole thing started because I like to stay on-top of things and noticed a leak on the garage floor.... Sigh......

So......

Plan B - I suggested an alternative. In this new plan... I would purchase a new Condenser, Drier, Orifice Tube and flush the system myself.
I can get all these parts for less than $150 and do it myself. From there - They would evacuate the system and recharge everything at no cost.

So ultimately, they are willing to help-out on that end if I replace those other parts myself and put everything back together. I think that was fair and certainly a goodwill offer on their part.

So that's the plan right now... I'm sourcing parts and doing research on the flushing part. (I have an air compressor, but have never flushed an A/C system.) The tech told me I should go to the local parts store and get some A/C flush... then use compressed air etc.

So yeah... deep into it now... but hey, if I can successfully replace intake gaskets and do most everything else, perhaps this won't be too difficult a job.

I just like doing things myself and knowing they are done correctly... Like many of you that work on your own cars.

Okay... any advice or experience on this is much appreciated. Thanks for reading this diatribe! LOL...
 
I can get all these parts for less than $150 and do it myself. From there - They would evacuate the system and recharge everything at no cost.

So ultimately, they are willing to help-out on that end if I replace those other parts myself and put everything back together. I think that was fair and certainly a goodwill offer on their part.

So that's the plan right now... I'm sourcing parts and doing research on the flushing part. (I have an air compressor, but have never flushed an A/C system.) The tech told me I should go to the local parts store and get some A/C flush... then use compressed air etc.

So yeah... deep into it now... but hey, if I can successfully replace intake gaskets and do most everything else, perhaps this won't be too difficult a job.

I just like doing things myself and knowing they are done correctly... Like many of you that work on your own cars.

Okay... any advice or experience on this is much appreciated. Thanks for reading this diatribe! LOL...

It is possible to DIY if you have someone evac the system and reintroduce refrigerant back into it once completed.

Search YouTube videos and read some tech articles, that should give you enough confidence to tackle the job.

Good mechanics are hard to find and bad ones are everywhere. That's why I also do 99% of my own work as they end up doing more damage and charging a fortune to hack up the car.
 
It is possible to DIY if you have someone evac the system and reintroduce refrigerant back into it once completed.

Search YouTube videos and read some tech articles, that should give you enough confidence to tackle the job.

Good mechanics are hard to find and bad ones are everywhere. That's why I also do 99% of my own work as they end up doing more damage and charging a fortune to hack up the car.
Thanks! Yes, I the shop agreed to evacuate the system and refill once I add a new condenser and other parts.

I definitely have been researching A/C systems and watching YouTube videos. I'm really confident I can make this happen.

I'm just a tad worried I have some debris in the system and that's why I want to flush it. I suppose I can head down to the parts store and see what they suggest... (I have a compressor also)

I used to have a really good mechanic but her retired. I was taught by my uncles about cars and I've done many things and been really succesful.

This A/C thing though... sigh.... I just feel like they should have done a better job communicating. And... WHY let the car go back (To me) when presssures were way off... That usually means something is wrong... UGH.... You're right... LOTS of crappy mechanics out there.
 
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Thanks! Yes, I the shop agreed to evacuate the system and refill once I add a new condenser and other parts.

I definitely have been researching A/C systems and watching YouTube videos. I'm really confident I can make this happen.

I'm just a tad worried I have some debris in the system and that's why I want to flush it. I suppose I can head down to the parts store and see what they suggest... (I have a compressor also)

I used to have a really good mechanic but her retired. I was taught by my uncles about cars and I've done many things and been really succesful.

This A/C thing though... sigh.... I just feel like they should have done a better job communicating. And... WHY let the car go back (To me) when presssures were way off... That usually means something is wrong... UGH.... You're right... LOTS of crappy mechanics out there.
you can flush it
 
So, what's the outcome?
Outcome is that it's still "ongoing". (Thread above) Basically replaced everything but the evaporator and had the system evacuated and refilled.

End result was disappointing...
 
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