05 camber out range both rear wheels

GM used this same system on various years and models, my Lucerne, so I was somewhat puzzled when I was told there is no mechanical camber adjustment for alignment. So off I went to find out how it was done and what options may be available and the shims were the only mechanical option available excluding the calibration method below.

I'll assume that the Lesabre alignment is going to be like the Lucerne where it needs a Tis2Web connection to the GM mothership to set up the calibration on the height sensor with the proper scanner interface. Some shops are unable to do this either because of lack of equipment or experience so it's something to confirm up front with a independent shop of course the dealership is always the default.

If it's not someone make a correction thank you.
thanks for reply, tech2 works on 05, I don't know if there is access to the leveling system.
 

The rear control arm has its 2 bushings at the front ... that makes it a trailing arm suspension. If, and only if, the 4 bushings are in a straight line then there would be zero camber change as the trim height changed.

But, looking at the photos, the outer bushings are farther forward. That would put the camber toward negative when the car sits lower. So the trim height does affect the camber.

In the service instructions for the ALC, the trim height is specified as the height under the rocker panel just in front of the rear wheel. This does not include the flange, just the flat bottom. For a 1997 LeSabre that is specified as 9 inches.
thanks for reply, "just the flat bottom." you mean an area that is the actual floor of the cabin and not a rib or other protrusion that would make the measuring point closer to the ground?
 
thanks for reply, tech2 works on 05, I don't know if there is access to the leveling system.
yes. i said that it does. the tech 2 has a "calibrate" function for the rear air ride.
 
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thanks for reply, I found these but the center piece which the bolt goes through not to pure looking due to the point made where the ends come together,

GM does not make these bushings anymore and GM discontinued making the rear lower control arm and no aftermarket exists for it. So in other words, there are no options but these bushings. If these don't work, then we are SCREWED as nobody makes a bushing for it.

Per MevoTech it shows: 2000-2002 Buick LeSabre - Rear Lower

Unless 2003 -2005 had different rear LCA bushings from the 2000 - 2002, these should work. If they don't, 2003-2005 owners are screwed.
 
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GM does not make these bushings anymore and GM discontinued making the rear lower control arm and no aftermarket exists for it. So in other words, there are no options but these bushings. If these don't work, then we are SCREWED as nobody makes a bushing for it.

Per MevoTech it shows: 2000-2002 Buick LeSabre - Rear Lower

Unless 2003 -2005 had different rear LCA bushings from the 2000 - 2002, these should work. If they don't, 2003-2005 owners are screwed.
The bushing is interchangeable, and the same control arm was used on all the cars, the buick lucerne uses them even.
 
Yep, those are the MevoTech bushings. Only manufacturer I could find that makes the rear LCA bushing for the LeSabre. So the only choice is that one. Beggers can't be choosers 😉
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The reason I brought up the lucerne is here is a 2006 I think lucerne and then a 2000 or 2001 park avenue (top v bottom) in that order
also what im saying, is that they truly dont wear all that much compared to the front, hence why i think diagnosis of the problem is likely more going to be the subframe back there, or some other component.
 
The definitely don't wear like the fronts but they dry rot over time due to age.

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The definitely don't wear like the fronts but they dry rot over time due to age.

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I saw a service online that claimed to rebuild the mounts. I bet you its a really dense piece of rubber thats rolled inside and since the rear has a small amount of pivoting it has to do, the wearing out yhou see happens. is it loose side-to-side? If it isnt, id spray some rejuvinating stuff on it just to cut down on the dry rot part a tiny bit, maybe squeak if that happens. other than that, not much you can do then lol. check torque if you had a tool that could sneak in there and give any twist. if not, id pray and keep on trucking lol
 
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They look exactly like the MevoTech ones but the Ebay ones are $140 for 4 bushings. The MevoTech are $26 for 4 bushings. I am not a fan of FleaBay, so many scams going on. They are the last resource for parts. I would rather do a junkyard than FleaBay. The wording used sounds like Google translate, probably a Chinese seller.
 
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They look exactly like the MevoTech ones but the Ebay ones are $140 for 4 bushings. The MevoTech are $26 for 4 bushings. I am not a fan of FleaBay, so many scams going on. They are the last resource for parts. I would rather do a junkyard than FleaBay. The wording used sounds like Google translate, probably a Chinese se
 
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Rock Auto can't help with this? There's got to be bushing that works or is similar in size.
 
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