Long term (3+ years) viability of Tourx when the PSA Groupe sale

[Pacer69]

Yep and don't forget disappearing Mitsu as well. I can't believe that's the same company that brought us the Starion, Eclipse, 3000GT, Diamante, Lancer Evo, Ralliart, etc., and some of their Chrysler twins. (Drove a '93 Stealth for 10 years, man what a cool ride and zero issues.)

I've been a Honda/Acura guy but for my Stealth decade (wife still drove Honda/Acura, drives Acura now, and I have another Honda, so they remain ever-present for me). Never thought I'd find a domestic car I liked enough to actually buy outside of Stealth which yeah was a Mitsu.

I guess TourX is similar in that it's also a rebadge. Either way...I generally will own a car for 10+ years and over 100k miles. That's also my plan for TourX. It's a Regal underneath with a tried and true EcoTec Turbo 4, which as others have mentioned is dependable, and the parts are very interchangeable among various GM rides.

So no worries at all for me. I only go to the nameplate dealer when a) I trust them implicitly, and b) they can match a local garage (or in the case of my RDX, gave me free oil changes for life, which came out to about a $4k-6k value for me) or for the rare warranty (Takata, anyone???) issue. The root car has been made since about the '13 model year as well and has a proven track record. And with current TourX pricing, I think buying one is just a wise decision.

 

[ntorch]

Aside from warranty work and the 2 free oil changes, I’ll only go to the Buick dealer (they are also GMC and Cadillac) for state inspection (it’s free each year as long as I own it). Otherwise, I’ll go to the garage a few miles away for any other work needed as the car ages, or I’ll do it myself if I can. So, I’m not really concerned.

 

[Ctrcbob]

Our car is a "Captive Import", the same as the long ago Plymouth Cricket. (Look it up). Our Tour-X made by the PSA Opal brand is also a Captive Import, but much better quality. Hope it does not go away like other Captive Imports

Dont mean that an independent import can't go under. Check out the Rover Sterlimg. (Look it up). Also known as Sterlimg. Beautiful car. Honda running gear, but typical British problems. Only lasted a couple years.

 

[NormT]

Even better chance now PSA is coming.

Peugeot brand will lead PSA’s return to U.S.

 

[ntorch]

From the article:

"The automaker maintains that it’s in no hurry. Its only stated time frame is to have vehicles for sale in the U.S. by 2026"

This is hardly good news for the current TourX or any current Insignia/Regal/Vauxhall platformed car.

 

[NormT]

From the article:

"The automaker maintains that it’s in no hurry. Its only stated time frame is to have vehicles for sale in the U.S. by 2026"

This is hardly good news for the current TourX or any current Insignia/Regal/Vauxhall platformed car.

I hope they do not come here like Alfa Romeo returned with allot of QC issues.

 

[Fleuger99]

From the article:

"The automaker maintains that it’s in no hurry. Its only stated time frame is to have vehicles for sale in the U.S. by 2026"

This is hardly good news for the current TourX or any current Insignia/Regal/Vauxhall platformed car.

WOW, they're really in no hurry. 2026 is twenty seven years away, some of us might not be alive anymore!! LOL! Talk about a LONG term plan.

 

[mitchflorida]

I count seven years, not twenty-seven.

 

[AndersEller]

Thank you to everyone for the input. it was really useful. MUCH appreciated!

 

[2007LucerneCXL]

The EU market is in a different mode then the states. Diesels sales are falling off the cliff like Lemmings and banning them for use in certain areas are already in the works or being enforced. EV are in the forefront, so what PSA could bring to the US market, another SUV as if that's needed or a car that no one really wants.

Besides PSA, which seems like a GM thinking clone at times, can't say what they are going to do other than to keep pushing out the time line.

Peugeot, Citroen considering US sales within 10 years - Autoblog

Groupe PSA CEO Carlos Tavares has laid out a three-step, ten-year plan that could culminate in the French manufacturer's return to the North American market.

www.autoblog.com

 

[ntorch]

WOW, they're really in no hurry. 2026 is twenty seven years away, some of us might not be alive anymore!! LOL! Talk about a LONG term plan.

Last I looked at the calendar it's 2019, not 1999. I wish it was still 1999, I'd be 27 years younger.

 

[mitchflorida]

Thank you to everyone for the input. it was really useful. MUCH appreciated!

So what did you decide? I think the 2018 left-over TourX models are a real bargain, especially with their four year warranty. I've seen markdowns of $12,000 advertised.

 

[AndersEller]

So what did you decide?

well, the dealership is not convenient, but its not ridiculously far, so if get a great price, then I'm down. The car drives great and gets solid reviews and none of you are complaining about it.. which is a good thing 🙂
but if i was a serious haul away from the dealer then I would pass, partially bc I don't do a ton of work on my own cars.

BTW - was 2018 the first year that Opel made this model in Europe too, or have the Opels and Vauxhauls been around a few more years over there (IOW more years of reliability data)?

 

[Fleuger99]

I count seven years, not twenty-seven.

Yeah my bad, that is what happens when one is working and reading forums 🙂

 

[ntorch]

well, the dealership is not convenient, but its not ridiculously far, so if get a great price, then I'm down. The car drives great and gets solid reviews and none of you are complaining about it.. which is a good thing 🙂
but if i was a serious haul away from the dealer then I would pass, partially bc I don't do a ton of work on my own cars.

BTW - was 2018 the first year that Opel made this model in Europe too, or have the Opels and Vauxhauls been around a few more years over there (IOW more years of reliability data)?

Europe got the Insignia starting in 2017

 

[mike69440]

well, the dealership is not convenient, but its not ridiculously far, so if get a great price, then I'm down. The car drives great and gets solid reviews and none of you are complaining about it.. which is a good thing 🙂
but if i was a serious haul away from the dealer then I would pass, partially bc I don't do a ton of work on my own cars.

BTW - was 2018 the first year that Opel made this model in Europe too, or have the Opels and Vauxhauls been around a few more years over there (IOW more years of reliability data)?

Dealer I purchased from was 1,500 miles from where I live. 2017 was first year of this new design.

 

[Pacer69]

well, the dealership is not convenient, but its not ridiculously far, so if get a great price, then I'm down. The car drives great and gets solid reviews and none of you are complaining about it.. which is a good thing 🙂
but if i was a serious haul away from the dealer then I would pass, partially bc I don't do a ton of work on my own cars.

BTW - was 2018 the first year that Opel made this model in Europe too, or have the Opels and Vauxhauls been around a few more years over there (IOW more years of reliability data)?

Gen 1 was 2013, Gen 2 (ours) was 2017 for Opel/Vauxhall. Before approaching your dealer, I'd take a look at exact options and colors you want on Cars.com or Autotrader.com - find the lowest price (hopefully 7-10k or more off msrp) and give your local dealer opportunity to match or beat. I would just say don't let your local dealer not giving you a decent price turn you away from this great car. Plenty of other motivated sellers out there and you can save serious k with a road or short plane trip...plus you can still get any potential dealer-only service done locally even if you buy elsewhere. I've done it a couple times, it is a fun adventure on a new car. Or you can get a car trailer-delivered for around $1k and still come out a few grand ahead.

 

[gmejia324]

With current trends, no telling which car will be around 3 years from now. Manufacturers going all in on the SUV & electrification craze. If that's a concern, I would stick to the Corollas, Camry's, Civics of the world..

 

[Banto]

If you shop around, extended warranties are cheap worry insurance because they will make sure they can find the parts necessary to fix the car. I have a Buick Protection Plan quotes for $1,800 for 84 months and 100k miles and I always buy after one year.

 

[IanMitch]

If you shop around, extended warranties are cheap worry insurance because they will make sure they can find the parts necessary to fix the car. I have a Buick Protection Plan quotes for $1,800 for 84 months and 100k miles and I always buy after one year.

do you mind if I ask why you wouldn't wait and buy in month 47? Would it provide anything that the factory warranty doesn't, during the period you have a factory warranty?