Rust in the rear wheel frame

[zachyj23]

The coil seat I made was done with 1/4" steal. I am not worry about rust as it will be some time before rust will compromise this coil seat.

If there are people interested I will gladly offer a step by step of how I completed this repair.

I am not a mechanic I just work out of my garage.

do you still have the step by step design? my coil spring is rusted out

 

[rya]

Could I get a copy of this as well for my 02?

Same here, kinda sad if I have to junk the car since mine only has 150k miles:`(

 

[radigan]

Late 2020 I gave my 2002 Lesabre to My Daughter who let her daughter’s boy friend drive the car. Sadly he totaled the car.

So, I went out and bought a new 2000 Lesabre for my daughter, purchase price $2000.

This new 2000 Lesabre has little or no rust, and many mechanical problems. I am working my way through the mechanical Problems.

I am taking parts from the 2002 to use on the 2000. But the parts that I welded for the rear coil are not needed on the new 2000 Lesabre, as it does not have rust.

So here is what I was thinking… I would sell these welded Plates I made for the rear frame. They bolt in, I can remove them, and another person could install in a rusted Lesabre.

These welded plates can take a rusty car that runs great live again.

Question… what do you think I could sell them for? Is there a market?

 

[lbear]

Late 2020 I gave my 2002 Lesabre to My Daughter who let her daughter’s boy friend drive the car. Sadly he totaled the car.

So, I went out and bought a new 2000 Lesabre for my daughter, purchase price $2000.

This new 2000 Lesabre has little or no rust, and many mechanical problems. I am working my way through the mechanical Problems.

I am taking parts from the 2002 to use on the 2000. But the parts that I welded for the rear coil are not needed on the new 2000 Lesabre, as it does not have rust.

So here is what I was thinking… I would sell these welded Plates I made for the rear frame. They bolt in, I can remove them, and another person could install in a rusted Lesabre.

These welded plates can take a rusty car that runs great live again.

Question… what do you think I could sell them for? Is there a market?

Any pics of these plates?

 

[radigan]

Check post 14 and 15 of this thread.

 

[dilligaf81]

Late 2020 I gave my 2002 Lesabre to My Daughter who let her daughter’s boy friend drive the car. Sadly he totaled the car.

So, I went out and bought a new 2000 Lesabre for my daughter, purchase price $2000.

This new 2000 Lesabre has little or no rust, and many mechanical problems. I am working my way through the mechanical Problems.

I am taking parts from the 2002 to use on the 2000. But the parts that I welded for the rear coil are not needed on the new 2000 Lesabre, as it does not have rust.

So here is what I was thinking… I would sell these welded Plates I made for the rear frame. They bolt in, I can remove them, and another person could install in a rusted Lesabre.

These welded plates can take a rusty car that runs great live again.

Question… what do you think I could sell them for? Is there a market?

I'd be interested if you still have available. You contact me: jkuzmits@gmail.com

 

[radigan]

 

[radigan]

Sadly I have junk the car, I did not see any interest in the coil Plates. So they went with the car the the recycler. Funny thing was the car was worth more for the catalitic converter then any thing else.

 

[radigan]

here are some pics showing the stages of making the plates ... they basically just bolted on. Quarter inch steel insure they would out last the car. This was a rewarding job.

 

[kulakjustina]

The coil seat I made was done with 1/4" steal. I am not worry about rust as it will be some time before rust will compromise this coil seat.

If there are people interested I will gladly offer a step by step of how I completed this repair.

I am not a mechanic I just work out of my garage.

Can you help me? I would appreciate those instructions. Kulakjustina@gmail.com. thank you again.

 

[G-646603]

Yeah you can either go god welder mode and somehow reconstruct that or try and pull the parts needed from the above diagrams from a pick n pull. I was just at one today since I have a similar (but much less severe) version of your problem and paying attention to that part on each car, there are definitely some better protected ones than others you could potentially pull but it would be hard.

you can order that spring seat from many places on google I just got on same issue I am a welder so rebuilding that rail piece of cake 2002 118000 miles no shops would touch it (liability reasons)

 

[Lincoln]

The coil seat I made was done with 1/4" steal. I am not worry about rust as it will be some time before rust will compromise this coil seat.

If there are people interested I will gladly offer a step by step of how I completed this repair.

I am not a mechanic I just work out of my garage.

I know this is an old post, but Id take those step by step instructions.

 

[radigan]

It has been a while since I have been on this forum, as I no longer have the lesabre.
My lesabre die a tragic death due to my granddaughter's boyfriend who took the door off in an accident.

The lesabre was a great car, it was easy to work on and was a comfortable car to drive. During my ownership the biggest challenge was the rust. if you look back at the beginning of this thread you can see the pics of the rust and the strut towers.

I had never welded prior to this repair but I had inherited an arc welder. So, this repair was a learning lesson for me, where I learned how to weld.

If you do not know how to weld remember neither did I.

Although I did some welding to fabricate the parts, I did not weld the car. the fabricated parts were bolted on. I was afraid of possibly making a mistake and causing a fire. The parts that I fabricated, I made outside the garage.

During the course of this project there were others who also comment about how they addressed the rust problem, but they had no fears of welding on to the car. do check out their threads.

to review the rust was in the rear wheel well of the car.

 

[Lincoln]

It has been a while since I have been on this forum, as I no longer have the lesabre.
My lesabre die a tragic death due to my granddaughter's boyfriend who took the door off in an accident.

The lesabre was a great car, it was easy to work on and was a comfortable car to drive. During my ownership the biggest challenge was the rust. if you look back at the beginning of this thread you can see the pics of the rust and the strut towers.

I had never welded prior to this repair but I had inherited an arc welder. So, this repair was a learning lesson for me, where I learned how to weld.

If you do not know how to weld remember neither did I.

Although I did some welding to fabricate the parts, I did not weld the car. the fabricated parts were bolted on. I was afraid of possibly making a mistake and causing a fire. The parts that I fabricated, I made outside the garage.

During the course of this project there were others who also comment about how they addressed the rust problem, but they had no fears of welding on to the car. do check out their threads.

to review the rust was in the rear wheel well of the car.

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Did the bolted on plates work well? Any issues? I'm planning on doing the same thing you did. I have the same problem.

 

[radigan]

Yes, for some reason I can not reload pics that I have already attached.
so, to review what I did is ...

I went to Lowes and bought 1/4" steal plate about 1' by 1'
I had an old control arm that I took out a collar
I cut the plate to fit the rusted area and a little more. I weld the collar on to the plate. The collar will hold the coil in place.
I took an old tire and cut a piece of rubber tread that was place between the bottom side of the plate and the top of the coil. Generously size the tread in excess of the top of coil. Drill a hole in the rubber tire tread so that the collar (that was welded on to the plate) can pop through. The drill size should be less than the collar's diameter. The rubber tread is important if you want to ensure ride quality.
I had some angle iron that I cut and welded to the top side of the plate. The vertical pieces now formed around the side of frame where rusted was not.
I drill holes in the vertical iron so that the fabricate part was secure to the frame.
I use a good quality steal bolt. Prior to bolting, make sure that there is no play on the plate as any movement will tear apart the frame.
I used a coil compressing tool from Harbor Freight. Warning compressing a coil is very dangerous, make sure wife, kids and friends are not nearby. Remember to be safe, the life you save might be your own.
I use a Needle Scaler Air Tool to prep the metal frame. Primed the frame and painted the frame.
Clean the fabricated part then prime and paint.
Assemble then do the other side.

Good luck

Remember mistake are a learning experience.

 

[radigan]

 

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[radigan]

Remember, you will need to cut a divot on the plate so the shock can clear the plate.

 

[radigan]

To bolt the plate in, I went in the trunk there were Plates that could be remove that allow you access to the inside of the rusty frame.