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White needles or red? I was looking to change this setting the other day in my white needle and was unsuccessful. Found other door lock settings but not that one. Maybe I didn't look properly...my wife will attest to this!
From what I heard, you will need to trade in car for a earlier model.
 
Either way expensive, plus the software issues witch could open can of worms with non stock hardware.
 
White needles or red? I was looking to change this setting the other day in my white needle and was unsuccessful. Found other door lock settings but not that one. Maybe I didn't look properly...my wife will attest to this!

White needles on mine... Yes you can change this to unlock all.
 
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Does it have delayed locking available?
 
The other bad thing. No emergency release to get car out of Park if car won't start. Other cars have a clip that you remove, stick a screwdriver in slot to push down on shifter release. You are going to do Beaucoup damage when tryi


Discovered this morning with foot off the brake:

Pushing ignition puts car in accessory mode (yes, we all know this).

But pushing and holding the ignition puts the car in ON status (historically, the second click on a keyed ignition). This illuminates the 2nd light on the ignition button.

In the ON position, you are able to shift the car out of park and into neutral!!

What would be REALLY neat, is if this ignition position was also the emergency fuel filler door release. But I think this is wishful thinking!
 
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Discovered this morning with foot off the brake:

Pushing ignition puts car in accessory mode (yes, we all know this).

But pushing and holding the ignition puts the car in ON status (historically, the second click on a keyed ignition). This illuminates the 2nd light on the ignition button.

In the ON position, you are able shift the car out of park and into neutral!!

What would be REALLY neat, is if this ignition position was also the emergency fuel filler door release. But I think this is wishful thinking!

This is great. I’m going to try it tomorrow.

Even Buick techs don’t know that. When I asked how to get out of Park without car running, they went under hood and said the transmission cable would need to be disassembled. IDIOTS.
 
Discovered this morning with foot off the brake:

Pushing ignition puts car in accessory mode (yes, we all know this).

But pushing and holding the ignition puts the car in ON status (historically, the second click on a keyed ignition). This illuminates the 2nd light on the ignition button.

In the ON position, you are able shift the car out of park and into neutral!!

What would be REALLY neat, is if this ignition position was also the emergency fuel filler door release. But I think this is wishful thinking!

I can confirm you can shift into N in the on2 position.
 
In the ON position, you are able to shift the car out of park and into neutral!!

Does it time-out after 10 minutes or so? The reason I ask is that when I took my ATS to a drive-in theatre last year, there was no way to leave the radio on for more than the time-out period (the movie's audio comes through FM). I think accessory mode might've turned the parking lights on too, which is obviously no good. Fortunately I brought a blue-tooth speaker to run through my phone. But maybe the GS has this problem solved?
 
Discovered this morning with foot off the brake:

Pushing ignition puts car in accessory mode (yes, we all know this).

But pushing and holding the ignition puts the car in ON status (historically, the second click on a keyed ignition). This illuminates the 2nd light on the ignition button.

In the ON position, you are able to shift the car out of park and into neutral!!

What would be REALLY neat, is if this ignition position was also the emergency fuel filler door release. But I think this is wishful thinking!

I tried this today twice and could not get it to work. What am I doing wrong. Don’t matter if I hold button down for ten seconds or twenty seconds. Only goes into normal accessory mode.

Again, what am I doing wrong?
 
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Again, what am I doing wrong?

You had me perplexed on this one.

Ok...What you're doing wrong is that you are going to accessory first.

Instead, press and hold for the ON position right away. Don't activate accessory first.

When accessory is already on and then you try to go to the ON position.. you are actually turning off your car.

Let me know...
 
You had me perplexed on this one.

Ok...What you're doing wrong is that you are going to accessory first.

Instead, press and hold for the ON position right away. Don't activate accessory first.

When accessory is already on and then you try to go to the ON position.. you are actually turning off your car.

Let me know...

I did that but I’ll try again.
 
Does it time-out after 10 minutes or so? The reason I ask is that when I took my ATS to a drive-in theatre last year, there was no way to leave the radio on for more than the time-out period (the movie's audio comes through FM). I think accessory mode might've turned the parking lights on too, which is obviously no good. Fortunately I brought a blue-tooth speaker to run through my phone. But maybe the GS has this problem solved?

Same question! Can you defeat the 10-minute shutdown? We also enjoy the drive-in movies!
 
Just trying to cover all the bases here so please bear with me. If you're having troubles, then others are probably too.

Since you said there was about a five-second delay, I think you were where you needed to be.

Accessory and ON positions looks the same on the dasboard. However, the ON position gives you additional functionality (like climate controls/blower fan speeds and access to certain vehical settings). So if you heard the blower motor kick in, you're in the right spot.

Did you notice the lights on the start button?

Accessory looks like:
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ON position looks like:
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If it took 5 seconds for activity to appear on the dash AND you have the green light showing like the button above.... my guess is that you were not pushing the brake when trying to move the gear shift. Brake must be depressed in order to move the shifter.

I don't think this is going to be a red needle versus white needle situation.. but for the record I have red needles.

Hopefully this works for you.
 
I have a July 2018 white needle build, to confirm my findings:

press & hold the start button (foot off the brake)

1st accessory comes on (continue holding) (EDIT: Accessory DOES NOT COME ON FIRST)
then On2 kicks in after a few more seconds.

in On2 (w/ foot on brake) can move the lever from P to N

press intention again once to turn car off completely
 
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1st accessory comes on (continue holding)
then On2 kicks in after a few more seconds.


Interesting... red needles goes directly to ON without passing through ACC first. (Edit: no difference between red and white needles as indicated by bollox74 - post #40)
 
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Actually, I just tried it again, I was mistaken. (edited my post to show)

It does not go into accessory
, press and hold the ignition (foot off the brake) for 5 sec or so - and it goes directly to On2.
 
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