GM performance parts Regal Stage Kit 2012-2013

[qwk93ta]

I wonder if the Opel has a kit like this?

 

[T07]

I think the '11 Tubo's are all Russelsheim cars, right? The ECM may be different since it was shared with the Opel.

They built 11s in Oshawa, mine is one but that's probably why they made the clean
2012 break to get all Oshawa built ones.

 

[sjr]

any update on the cost of just the CAI?

 

[Harshman]

They built 11s in Oshawa, mine is one but that's probably why they made the clean
2012 break to get all Oshawa built ones.

My TO4 was built in Germany.

 

[trucklt1]

any update on the cost of just the CAI?

CAI alone is showing back order, price is $853.17 The stage kit is cheaper since it is considered an accessory there is better pricing. The air intake is considered a service part therefore standard pricing applies

 

[RegalGSer]

I may consider this package. I have a stock 12 GS, so I am wondering if I would really notice the power increase, or would driveability and power consistency be a more noticeable improvement? For GM to bother making a kit, I would hope it would be noticeable on both fronts. At $600-$800 it isn't cheap and I wonder about cost vs. benefits. Any further opinions would be appreciated as people jump on this kit. Thanks.

 

[Jscaife]

So all in all would price and warranty aside... Would you say you'd rather the trifecta tune, or the GM package?

 

[sjr]

I would likely take the IPF tune over trifecta. Can't speak for the Gm tune.

 

[MayorMcCheese]

Id go Trifecta all day , i love IPF but Trifecta is just fastest of all tunes available for the Buicks .. the GM tune to me is a joke lol but thats just me

 

[kranz38]

Id go Trifecta all day , i love IPF but Trifecta is just fastest of all tunes available for the Buicks .. the GM tune to me is a joke lol but thats just me

Waiting to see how trifecta will fine tune your car. It seems like it would be a huge pain to data log on such a finicky platform. I really want to ride in your car if you go in may, curious to see the difference in tunes.

 

[TBrooks]

Based on Truck1's observations, it would seem that the Trifecta tune alone provides more gains.
To be a real comparison it would need to be a cold air with a custom accommodated tune by Trifecta. Does a European mirror exist or is there an alternative to the 800$ GM CAI?

 

[johnnyGS]

thats a lot of $$$ for it . but it sure is nice looking

 

[stoopid]

I would be willing to pay for it to keep my warranty intact.

 

[gjtalis]

Three dealership service centers, three strikeouts …. first dealership said, "We don't do that type of work" and referred me to a tuning shop over an hour away... second dealership said, "we can order kit for you, its $700, but we won't do any work or install anything here" … and the third looked into it, called me back an hour later and said "My service manager really doesn't want to take on this type of job here"

WTF am i wrong in assuming the whole install should take an hour, maybe two? i mean i can handle the intake install really just need them for the GM tune

Anyone else having trouble finding a dealership to work with them?

 

[Harshman]

Can't say that I have run into this with dealerships, however I have been turned down by three companies for landscaping work because it was too far to drive. I figure they are making so much money they can just say 'nno' to more of it.

 

[dmenn]

I would be willing to pay for it to keep my warrant intact.

That's a huge selling point .. Then you don't have to keep switching tunes every time you need to go to a dealer. You pretty much set it and forget it, and enjoy the better drive.

 

[DonRican]

I know some of you are debating getting this and are reading the thread to help make a decision. (As I was) Maybe my two cents can help.

I'm getting the stage kit for many reasons. None are the tune itself. I wouldn't get it if it didn't benefit the car in some way. But there are some very good reasons for me to get it. The most important to me is making these kits profitable for Buick so they keep coming. While this alone wouldn't do it for me, I think it's important so we might get a Stage II or Stage III from them in the future. Having a stage setup might also make the car worth more in the future. Sort of like the old GS Stage add-ons. They need a badge or sticker so people know it's a Stage setup.

The stock airflow tubing sucks. One of the first things I commented on was the horrible plastic duct work. I never purchased the ZZP upgrade because it pulled hot air from the engine bay. I didn't want to fix one problem and add another. So I put a K&N drop-in filter which still uses the crapy stock tubes. That was the cheapest way out. The new Stage system solves that problem for me. It not only looks good but pulls colder air. It also seems smoother which will help keep turbulence inside the tubes to a minimum. The less resistance the air meets on the way to the turbo the faster you should spool up. May not be much but something is better than nothing. It's all wins for me.

I'm happy with my IPF Tune so I'll see how it works with it.

 

[Clutchfoot]

So you are getting the tune but are going to try the intake with the IPF tune right? Makes sense seeing as its cheaper to buy the kit than to buy the intake alone (cause of bureaucratic nonsense pricing).

It would be interesting to see the intake with the IPF tune (updated for hardware change) compared with the full kit and the GM tune.

Though i bet a tuner is going to pick up the GM performance intake design at some point.

 

[trucklt1]

I know some of you are debating getting this and are reading the thread to help make a decision. (As I was) Maybe my two cents can help.

I'm getting the stage kit for many reasons. None are the tune itself. I wouldn't get it if it didn't benefit the car in some way. But there are some very good reasons for me to get it. The most important to me is making these kits profitable for Buick so they keep coming. While this alone wouldn't do it for me, I think it's important so we might get a Stage II or Stage III from them in the future. Having a stage setup might also make the car worth more in the future. Sort of like the old GS Stage add-ons. They need a badge or sticker so people know it's a Stage setup.

The stock airflow tubing sucks. One of the first things I commented on was the horrible plastic duct work. I never purchased the ZZP upgrade because it pulled hot air from the engine bay. I didn't want to fix one problem and add another. So I put a K&N drop-in filter which still uses the crapy stock tubes. That was the cheapest way out. The new Stage system solves that problem for me. It not only looks good but pulls colder air. It also seems smoother which will help keep turbulence inside the tubes to a minimum. The less resistance the air meets on the way to the turbo the faster you should spool up. May not be much but something is better than nothing. It's all wins for me.

I'm happy with my IPF Tune so I'll see how it works with it.

I agree 100% the MAF tables in your IPF tune, or any tune for that matter, will most likely need to be changed to work with the intake. I would like to get my trifecta tune updated, I'm not sure how to go about doing so, the vendor I purchased the trifecta from has been very difficult to get a hold of in the past . maybe WOT can comment. The kit comes with a 91 octane sticker for the gas door and a CARB cert. sticker that goes by the emission label underhood that says it is a stage kit

 

[trucklt1]

Based on Truck1's observations, it would seem that the Trifecta tune alone provides more gains.
To be a real comparison it would need to be a cold air with a custom accommodated tune by Trifecta. Does a European mirror exist or is there an alternative to the 800$ GM CAI?

I don't know of any alternatives. The car seemed to pull harder with just the trifecta tune, however without ET slips or a dyno its hard to prove which is actually making the most power. I do like that the GM kit actually gives you peak HP and TQ numbers which none of the other tunes seem to want publish.