Best tires for your Regal

[DrFaustus]

Just be sure to pay special attention to the offset. 40mm on a 17" won't fit, even though it will with an 18" wheel. 45mm is required.

 

[visitor]

Just be sure to pay special attention to the offset. 40mm on a 17" won't fit, even though it will with an 18" wheel. 45mm is required.

Won't a shorter offset bring the inside of the rim out, away from the caliper? Seems a greater offset would be more likely for the inside of the rim to hit the caliper 🤔

 

[DrFaustus]

Won't a shorter offset bring the inside of the rim out, away from the caliper? Seems a greater offset would be more likely for the inside of the rim to hit the caliper 🤔

These are actually negative numbers, so they are moving in the opposite direction.

 

[visitor]

These are actually negative numbers, so they are moving in the opposite direction.

So you're talking about a rim with the mating surface inside the centerline.

Our 18" OEM's are listed @ +40 offset, where the mating surface is outside the centerline, i believe.
OEM 17" option lists @ +45 offset, also outside the centerline, but a +40 would move the wheel out & away from the caliper.

It is the contact with the caliper you're referring to regarding 'fit', right?

 

[DrFaustus]

You're right, those aren't negative offset. It needed that extra +5 mm toward the outside of the vehicle to clear the caliper. I always forget which direction that goes. Positive is how it is from the center to the outside of the wheel. Negative is when you have deep dish wheels.

 

[visitor]

Still trying to wrap my head around the numbers, but it looks like the fact that the 17" rim is also .5" narrower affects where the rub @ the caliper happens.
OEM 17" part#13463429 does list with a 45mm offset, while OEM 18" part #13463432 lists with a 40mm offset. This coincides with the requirements you posted, but those are alloy rims.
I'm looking for 17" steel rims to mount winter tires on.
Design differences of aftermarket wheels may make it even more complicated to calculate.

I had a 17 snow set when I was up north and it was fantastic.

Were those steel rims?
If so do you have a part#, source or reference?

 

[bollox74]

I had these wheels and this is the ad that has the tire spec too (already long gone)

Narrower tires but essentially the same height/sidewall on a 17. They were excellent and no problems with fitment at all.
I moved to the southern US so no need for the set.

 

[DrFaustus]

Still trying to wrap my head around the numbers, but it looks like the fact that the 17" rim is also .5" narrower affects where the rub @ the caliper happens.
OEM 17" part#13463429 does list with a 45mm offset, while OEM 18" part #13463432 lists with a 40mm offset. This coincides with the requirements you posted, but those are alloy rims.
I'm looking for 17" steel rims to mount winter tires on.
Design differences of aftermarket wheels may make it even more complicated to calculate.

Were those steel rims?
If so do you have a part#, source or reference?

Yes, width does matter. Offset is measured from the center line of the wheel. So if the wheel is say, 6" wide that would be a total width of 3" on each side with a zero offset. 8" wheel would have 4" on each side of the center line.

 

[visitor]

Offset is measured from the center line of the wheel.

I'm not sure how standard the wider section of the inside is distanced from the centerline, though. The centerline is, from what i've seen, is some distance outside that wider rim section, don't see measurements for wider vs. narrower inner diameter sections, and that's what matters as far as clearing the caliper goes, right?.
I mean if that narrower section extends far enough inside the centerline, shorter offset may not pull the rim out far enough to let the wider section clear the caliper.
If there's a good enough accurate pic of the rim i could estimate that space, but buying on-line doesn't allow for accurate calculations when the tolerance is critical. 🤔

I'm looking for specs & a source for rims something like this.

 

[DrFaustus]

It's a measurement from how far from the exact center is to the mounting surface. I guess I'm not sure what you mean by wider section.

 

[visitor]

not sure what you mean by wider section.

In the 1st example, the hub contact line falls in the 'wide' inside area of the rim.
In the 2nd example, the hub contact line falls in the 'narrow' inside area of the rim.

The caliper may fit inside that wide section, but make contact if forced into the narrow section as the wheel is mounted.

 

[DrFaustus]

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In the 1st example, the hub contact line falls in the 'wide' inside area of the rim.
In the 2nd example, the hub contact line falls in the 'narrow' inside area of the rim.

The caliper may fit inside that wide section, but make contact if forced into the narrow section as the wheel is mounted.

I see what you mean. But there is no standard around that, it's specific to each wheel design.

 

[visitor]

83-7718 fits

 

[Malo83]

Though I'm still running OE tires at the moment, my favorite tires are the Continental Extreme DWS. Work great in all conditions and look pretty cool too.

Just installed these tires on my 17 GS replacing the original Pirelli's, what a difference smooth and quiet, Pirelli's were noisy and rough. 😉

ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus

continentaltire.com

 

[Jack GS]

I have about 1,000 miles on my new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4 mounted to 20" wheels and I am impressed with the overall improvement over the stock Contis. Where the stock tires would squeal and lose grip around entrance/exit ramps, these new PS A/S tires just grip and go without a peep. I have actually found it quite difficult to find the limit on the PS A/S.

They are also nice and quiet from a road noise perspective. Comfort-wise, they are what you'd expect out of a 20" wheel setup but I don't find them significantly harsher than the 19" stock setup on the GS.

My vote for anyone looking for a performance all season tire:

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 4 or Continental DWS06 Plus

 

[greenne]

Sold my TourX:

I bought new tires a few months back for the TourX. I will posting them for sale..brand new, never used. Still in tirerack packaging(banded) as they came when shipped. Sitting only a few months. Pirelli Cinturato Weatheractive. $221 on tirerack, I'd like to get $800 for the set. See ad withy pictures soon in the marketplace(classifieds) subthread. Location is Albany NY...I can assist with delivery and/or shipping. PM if interested.

 

[visitor]

83-7718 fits

Cooper Evolution Winter 215/60R17 <- these have been great on our '05 Pacifica for several winters, so i'm going with them on the TourX as well.

One of the 4 'new' #13540602 tpms sensors i got on eBay back in May is dead 😒

These lug nuts fit with these #83-7718 rims.

 

[visitor]

Cooper Evolution Winter 215/60R17 <- these have been great on our '05 Pacifica for several winters, so i'm going with them on the TourX as well.

...but, as they're 'snow' tires by design & wouldn't last long on summer roads, they're not the "Best replacement tire set" for a Regal outside of winter driving seasons.

By the way, regarding

bollox74: "Narrower tires but essentially the same height/sidewall on a 17"

- it's my understanding that with 'snow' tires you lose some grip advantage by going with a wider tire at some point, e.g. /75 ratio tire may perform better in snow than /55. I've read they ride up (like wearing snowshoes) rather than digging in.

 

[PrincipalDan]

I'm giving this thread a bump because I've noticed lots of newcomers in the past few weeks. They're coming in with used TourXs and it might be relevant.

 

[94cruiser]

Any feedback on
Micheline Defender 2
or
Continental Truecontact Tour 54

The TRex is my daily driver. I do live in the snowball and have a dedicated winter tire set.

Still on the original Continentals and I was quite happy with them and they are a great handling improvement vs my snow tires. A whole lot less flex and a quicker response when let'ssay changing lanes.

Based on my research the Michelin will give me a longer thread life, but from my experience that means less grippy tire as it's a harder compound.
The information from tirerack however has them marked very close to each other.
Anyone running these?