Tune.... IPF, Trifecta, HP Tuners

[trevgtp]

I am actually receiving one of the "free" tunes. The tune, normally $350 was being given away for free, however the module to install the tune was still $200 +$15 shipping, so it took a bit of convincing for me to lay out that money after getting the Trifecta 2 years ago. I don't really have any issues with the Trifecta, but I am also curious to see what this IPF has to offer. I spoke with Andy for almost an hour last week on the phone- nice guy, different approach to tuning than Trifecta. I will put up a review of the IPF and let everyone know.

 

[endurodude]

What is the drivers side sunglass holder mod?

 

[trevgtp]

The car didn't come with a sunglasses holder, but it did come with a drivers side overhead grab handle. Got a piece from Opel that took off he handle and you screw in a spring loaded glasses holder. Pretty simple cheap and effective. You can do a search on this forum for it.

 

[HotZ28]

What is the drivers side sunglass holder mod?

Really confused here, but how did we go from IPF, Trifecta, HP Tuners, to sunglass holders??

 

[kranz38]

Really confused here, but how did we go from IPF, Trifecta, HP Tuners, to sunglass holders??

if I had to guess its in his signature

 

[DonRican]

The car didn't come with a sunglasses holder, but it did come with a drivers side overhead grab handle. Got a piece from Opel that took off he handle and you screw in a spring loaded glasses holder. Pretty simple cheap and effective. You can do a search on this forum for it.

I'm not sure what the call the compartment on the dash below the headlight switch but my Oakley's fit nicely there.

 

[wierz11]

I always assumed that WAS a sunglasses holder...

/threadderailed

 

[IPF Tuning]

IPF Tuning is backed by EDS Fahrzeugtechnik the German Tuning leader who developed the IPF Tool.
Actually the Regal GS is the OPEL Insignia in Europe.
EDS tuned the OPEL Insignia years before until Trifecta did it once it arrived to US.

Yes Marc you are correct, we are not a new company. We are the North American distributor for EDS Fahrzeugtechnik which has been tuning these engines over 10 years and definitely longer than any tuner in the US. Our back round is with Opel and GM Europe. We have a strong market in many countries including China, Russia, the Middle East and parts of South America. In the US we sell mostly to larger speed shops and dealers. We are making an effort to expand to the consumer market. Trifecta has good products and BNR I hear is a good company as well. We are not here to bash others products, we are just offering other solutions so the consumer has options. Our methods are different than our competitors and we feel our product is well worth your consideration. We also offer a Money Back Guarantee if you are not satisfied with your purchase.

Fee free to contact us with any questions.

 

[Kevandkaye]

Hello everyone! I Just landed the "newly improved" 2014 Regal turbo, and I of course, am already looking at mods for it. from my research this is supposed to be the same package that comes on the GS this year. 259hp and 0-60 in 6.5 @14.8 1/4 mile? I would really like to know who is out there with a mod package and has any numbers and 1/4 mile official track times to back these tunes up? Can the trans handle more power? I understand there is only one built for these? Thanks!

 

[sweetness34]

Just installed my trifecta tune minutes after getting it and it was well worth it!!!! Got it through BNR and had no problems with them. They were great about quick responses. I'll be watching out for the IPF tune results but I'll probably stick with this.

 

[TRIFECTA]

Re: Tune....

Yes Marc you are correct, we are not a new company. We are the North American distributor for EDS Fahrzeugtechnik which has been tuning these engines over 10 years and definitely longer than any tuner in the US. Our back round is with Opel and GM Europe. We have a strong market in many countries including China, Russia, the Middle East and parts of South America. In the US we sell mostly to larger speed shops and dealers. We are making an effort to expand to the consumer market. Trifecta has good products and BNR I hear is a good company as well. We are not here to bash others products, we are just offering other solutions so the consumer has options. Our methods are different than our competitors and we feel our product is well worth your consideration. We also offer a Money Back Guarantee if you are not satisfied with your purchase.

Fee free to contact us with any questions.

Welcome to the buickforums. EDS has always been a worthy competitor. We have crossed paths in many different markets, and will cross paths in many more to come.

I disagree with you in merit of "these engines over 10 years and definitely longer than any tuner in the US". In my opinion, the DELPHI ECM equipped LHU/LDK engine platform is a more recent development, with development work between you vs us starting at near the same time across both Europe and China. To claim that experience from the BOSCH controller powertrain platforms will directly port over to the DELPHI controller powertrain platforms in my opinion is misleading. We can hail as the first US software developer to have provided a consistent and reliable solution for the ECOTEC engine platform starting with the Cobalt SS LSJ.

I would like to propose that we limit challenging each other to the immediate scope of the vehicle in question instead of alluding to other vehicle types or past projects. Power vs power. Feature vs feature. CAL vs CAL. Not Camaro vs ATS. Not Ariel vs VW.

You have some truly remarkable and development projects for a few other vehicle types, such as your Chevy Camaro Supercharger kit. We have our positive displacement Cadillac SRX supercharger assembly and the world's fastest Cadillac ATS runs a TRIFECTA custom operating system, amongst many other platforms. The scope of such projects show what we and you are design and engineering capable of. We and you can go on for an extended period time detailing the past or things that do not apply here.


Others have come and gone, but we and you are here to stay. Lets make this a positive experience for the customers on the buickforums.

BTW, nice meeting you Andy at the SEMA show last year.

 

[wierz11]

Oi, I don't understand why people are trying to knock either. I'm ecstatic that we now have more tuning companies paying attention to Buick in general. Both seem to be great companies; I having experience with Trifecta (have had great customer service), while IPF just hit the scene but seem to be a real stand-up company. I applaud you both, and it is good to see healthy competition. There should be no bashing or butt-hurt owners knocking either, for we are a small community and need to retain companies producing products for us.

I got an idea - each provide me a tune, I'll dyno each 😛 see who provides the most power 😎

 

[Sonny@bnr]

I make the most on stock turbo at the moment 🙂

 

[BLKGS12]

I make the most on stock turbo at the moment 🙂

Not for long lol

 

[IPF Tuning]

Re: Tune....

Welcome to the buickforums. EDS has always been a worthy competitor. We have crossed paths in many different markets, and will cross paths in many more to come.

I disagree with you in merit of "these engines over 10 years and definitely longer than any tuner in the US". In my opinion, the DELPHI ECM equipped LHU/LDK engine platform is a more recent development, with development work between you vs us starting at near the same time across both Europe and China. To claim that experience from the BOSCH controller powertrain platforms will directly port over to the DELPHI controller powertrain platforms in my opinion is misleading. We can hail as the first US software developer to have provided a consistent and reliable solution for the ECOTEC engine platform starting with the Cobalt SS LSJ.

I would like to propose that we limit challenging each other to the immediate scope of the vehicle in question instead of alluding to other vehicle types or past projects. Power vs power. Feature vs feature. CAL vs CAL. Not Camaro vs ATS. Not Ariel vs VW.

You have some truly remarkable and development projects for a few other vehicle types, such as your Chevy Camaro Supercharger kit. We have our positive displacement Cadillac SRX supercharger assembly and the world's fastest Cadillac ATS runs a TRIFECTA custom operating system, amongst many other platforms. The scope of such projects show what we and you are design and engineering capable of. We and you can go on for an extended period time detailing the past or things that do not apply here.


Others have come and gone, but we and you are here to stay. Lets make this a positive experience for the customers on the buickforums.

BTW, nice meeting you Andy at the SEMA show last year.

You make some very good points... we are the only two left standing here. Time for a beer perhaps... Was nice meeting you as well. We are looking forward to this years show and working on some new projects as well. Maybe someday we could even collaborate. : )

 

[sjr]

Holy s*** I just uploaded the "new" trifecta tune on my car and it rips hard as hell, CONSIDERABLE jump in power compared to my last trifecta tune. Now, I have been running IPF's tune this past week and I am very happy with it - and I have only driven this new trifecta tune for about 15 minutes, but initial thoughts are that IPF is smoother and has a more constant/expectable throttle response. Trifecta, on the other hand, feels faster and pulls harder- for now i'm also going to say that it feels less polished, but like i said above I only took the car for a short drive. Will continue to post updates. Also worth noting that at this time I still do not have a preference between the two. Am interested in hearing comparisons from others.

 

[BLKGS12]

They are all junk... go hp and never look back

 

[cubaniche]

They are all junk... go hp and never look back

This isn't an accurate comparison. TF and IPF tunes are consistent and made for the platform. They are tunes made and tested by a company and then sold for the platform after many hours of testing and designed for a specific increase in performance that should be attainable to 99.99% of everyone that buys it and applies it to their vehicle.

They aren't made by an individual tuner that's going to custom tune your car like what an HP Tune is all about. HP Tuning is completely custom. Its going to rely on an individual tuner or shop. You are never going to end up with an HP tune that is the same, simply because of the different methods of tuning that these individual tuners have.

Now, this doesn't mean that once you have an TF or IPF tune it isn't going to be tailored to your mods and car, but stock for stock, it will almost always be the same result.

When someone recommends an HP Tune, it's not like TF or IPF, where you can order the programming and expect basically the same result as others that have ordered TF or IPF tunes. When you recommend an HP tune you're basically recommending the individual tuner that tuned your car and not a tuning company.

If someone were to take you up on the recommendation and got an HP tune by a tuner that is locally available to them, in no way does it mean that they will have the same results as you.

That's why I never understood the comparison between a dedicated tuning company like Trifecta, IPF, COBB, Dinan etc., all of which have specific developed MAP's for a specific platform, as opposed to HPT which is totally custom by an individual tuner or speed shop.

If someone here goes HPT, please do your research and make sure that the shop or tuner you use has extensive knowhow on how to properly tune these Ecotec Turbo engines....because they aren't like other engines, they are touchy and require intimate knowledge of how they work and what tables they can modify and which ones they really shouldn't mess with.

 

[IPF Tuning]

This isn't an accurate comparison. TF and IPF tunes are consistent and made for the platform. They are tunes made and tested by a company and then sold for the platform after many hours of testing and designed for a specific increase in performance that should be attainable to 99.99% of everyone that buys it and applies it to their vehicle.

They aren't made by an individual tuner that's going to custom tune your car like what an HP Tune is all about. HP Tuning is completely custom. Its going to rely on an individual tuner or shop. You are never going to end up with an HP tune that is the same, simply because of the different methods of tuning that these individual tuners have.

Now, this doesn't mean that once you have an TF or IPF tune it isn't going to be tailored to your mods and car, but stock for stock, it will almost always be the same result.

When someone recommends an HP Tune, it's not like TF or IPF, where you can order the programming and expect basically the same result as others that have ordered TF or IPF tunes. When you recommend an HP tune you're basically recommending the individual tuner that tuned your car and not a tuning company.

If someone were to take you up on the recommendation and got an HP tune by a tuner that is locally available to them, in no way does it mean that they will have the same results as you.

That's why I never understood the comparison between a dedicated tuning company like Trifecta, IPF, COBB, Dinan etc., all of which have specific developed MAP's for a specific platform, as opposed to HPT which is totally custom by an individual tuner or speed shop.

If someone here goes HPT, please do your research and make sure that the shop or tuner you use has extensive knowhow on how to properly tune these Ecotec Turbo engines....because they aren't like other engines, they are touchy and require intimate knowledge of how they work and what tables they can modify and which ones they really shouldn't mess with.

Agreed, HP is only as good as the tuner using it. There are some tuners out there who use HPT that are extremely good at what they do... different ballgame, different price point. You looking for a custom tune on a heavily modded vehicle.. find a good HPT. I agree... but do your research. Anyone can buy the software but only few can use it properly.

However there are several platforms we tune that they do not even support in the GM line-up. LLT 3.6L Bosch for example.

Apples to oranges. HPT is a tool, a great tool in fact, but unless your tuner knows what they are doing it is useless. What we sell is a finished product, more like goods off the shelf. Its predictable, reliable and we design it to be safe for everyday use with your vehicles longevity in mind.

 

[sjr]

Holy s*** I just uploaded the "new" trifecta tune on my car and it rips hard as hell, CONSIDERABLE jump in power compared to my last trifecta tune. Now, I have been running IPF's tune this past week and I am very happy with it - and I have only driven this new trifecta tune for about 15 minutes, but initial thoughts are that IPF is smoother and has a more constant/expectable throttle response. Trifecta, on the other hand, feels faster and pulls harder- for now i'm also going to say that it feels less polished, but like i said above I only took the car for a short drive. Will continue to post updates. Also worth noting that at this time I still do not have a preference between the two. Am interested in hearing comparisons from others.

Uploaded IPFs tune back on the car yesterday, and gotta say its an impressive tune. Certainly as powerful as trifecta's - but feels smoother and more predictable throttle response. 1st gear is also more powerful, no question.